More Mike Patton Hates Wolfmother…
Well, first off, when I checked my blog stats today, I noticed that the bulk of my page-views (not many, really, my hits are still less than 30 a day) were being generated by my Mike Patton VS Wolfmother post from October 2nd. Many of those hits were the result of search engine queries, with predictable query terms. As I’m looking at this, I’m thinking, that’s pretty good, but no one is leaving comments. I had seen some of the message threads that this video had generated the night I wrote my original post, and it seemed like a moderately hot topic. Its obvious that there are plenty of Wolfmother fans out there who don’t agree with Mike’s thoughts about Wolfmother, let alone mine, but, nobody comments. Now, I realize that I’m just some guy with some random blog, and I’m not expecting to become the next Pitchfork or anything, but I think most people start blogging to have readers, and comments are the proof that they’re out there. Blog stats are more like droppings on the trail. You know that the deer have been walking by, but you can never really be sure how many.
My next step was to figure out why people are even ending up at this blog after searching for ‘Mike Patton vs Wolfmother‘. After all, I know there were plenty of links to the YouTube video a month ago, so there must be a plethora of sites discussing this pop culture incident by now. So, I type ‘Mike Patton vs Wolfmother’ in to Google, and the link to this blog is at the top of the page. Blink. Blink. Then my eyes bulge out. I have a top ranking search on Google for a current pop culture incident. I’m stunned. Turns out that if you search for ‘Mike Patton Wolfmother‘ (no ‘vs’), the YouTube video link is the number one hit…but I’m 5th. At this point I thought I’d dig a little further, just to see where this little incident is ranking in the broader cultural landscape that stretches out around both Mike Patton and Wolfmother, so I search for ‘Mike Patton’ and ‘Wolfmother‘. My page ranks #137 and #431 respectively. Amid the wilderness of Wolfmother promotion, this incident is a minor event. The link to the YouTube clip was quite a way down the list as well. In Mike Patton’s world, however, this blip is much bigger on the radar. References to the Lollapaloza video start to show up around search result #50.
Wow. I just lost a lot of my entry here. That sucks. Time to stop typing in the web-based editor.
All that page ranking stuff is kind of interesting, but I realize it’s not terribly significant.
At this point I feel compelled to make a bit of summary. I spent some time reading comments at BLABBERMOUTH and stereogum precipitated by Mike Patton’s negative outburst regarding Wolfmother. Those who defend Mike Patton are able to cite specific reasons to give weight to his opinion. Mike Patton has been, and continues to be, a creative and inventive force in the development of modern music. He has the kind of background that entitles him to an opinion about music. Mike certainly has more experience and knowledge of music than the average radio listener, or someone like me, who has written, recorded and performed music on and off since I was 12 years old. I would venture to guess that Mike Patton even has more musical knowledge and experience than any of the guys in Wolfmother. Prove me wrong. The posters who defend Wolfmother seem to offer no real evidence of their validity as contributors to modern music, beyond a claim to the effect that they’re hard rockin’ guys just playin’ some kick ass tunes. In fact, most of the posts resort to name calling. I don’t think many people would argue the claim that Mike Patton is gay. So was Freddy Mercury. The amount of posts of this nature make me wonder if its not just an excuse for the posters to write out their subconscious homo-erotic fantasies. The only argument with any remote validity is that Mike Patton is currently making unlistenable crap music, which is a matter of opinion at best. I find Justin Timberlake unlistenable, even with Timbaland’s help, and I’m sure I’m not the only one. The record buying public is eating it up, just like they are Wolfmother.
I think Mike was expressing his frustration with the realization that the music industry is largely fueled by the ignorant masses. I’d also like to note that nowhere in the interview does Mike say he ‘hates’ Wolfmother, what he says is that they ’suck’. Mike probably didn’t choose the most accurate of eloquent way of expressing his feelings. Let me be so bold as to paraphrase:
Wolfmother, you suck aren’t bothering to contribute a single original thing to modern music!
I haven’t heard a convincing argument against this yet.
Although trends are changing, a huge number of people like their music to come to them easy and familiar, like a microwave burrito, a greasy drive-thru burger, or yesterday’s leftovers. This is exactly what Wolfmother, among others, are feeding us: they’ve taken the 30 year old leftovers, sprinkled them with a little MSG (not that MSG, this is a food metaphor), heated them up in a shiny new microwave, and called it fresh.
Many artists are looking for ‘success’ which can be measured by both the size of an audience and the quality of the audience. I know I would prefer to have a song I wrote be praised by Brian Eno than sell 100,000 copies to 12 year old girls.
Hey Darryl…you know what’s funny? I don’t think I even knew this page existed until today…I know you talked to me about getting no comments but I assumed it was just on your other family one. Love the last line by the way. TOTALLY agree. It’s usually the true artists that don’t look for the HUGE audiences or the big money, but that look for the questions…and search for truth. Just a thought…
Asking difficult questions (both to answer and to frame) and searching for answers that may not be what everyone wants to hear are definitely artistic endevours. Telling people what they want to hear is often ‘entertainment’, but not always art.
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You haven’t been provided with a convincing argument by pro-Wolfmother stalwarts because they don’t have any.
Mike Patton will go on creating disparate forms of music and being held in a reverential light by music connoisseurs everywhere, and Wolfmother will still suck. Amen.
Just let go, throw the album on, turn the stereo up and headbang around the house. Have fun with it, THAT’S what Wolfmother make their music for. Fuck analysis. I respect Mike Patton as much as anybody, but when ANY musician disses another in such a fashion I can’t help but wonder if they’ve forgotten what the whole idea of making music is.
Well… comparing Wolfmother to Justin Timberlake is nameless… And comparing any work Patton has been involved in to Wolfmother is also quite useless, as they are not comparable. Wolfmother are obviously not offering some new modern style of music or whatever, but what’s the matter with that? Patton is admirable for being such an inspired contributor to innovation, but that does not mean bands looking back to rescue some old sound suck… At least that’s my opinion. And do you really think Wolfmother recorded their EP in 2004 with that old fashioned style just to sell records to teenagers? as i wrote in a board some minutes ago, if Wolfmother just didn’t have this success and Patton hadn’t said anything about them, lots of people that now are criticising them would have just thought “oh, look, they mix raw influences of some of the biggest bands of rock of the 70’s, really interesting doing such a thing nowadays!!”.
Wolfmother’s album deserves listening and not judging it just for a couple of singles, I don’t think it fits that “easy for the masses” cliché. We are not talking about Nickelback… (XDDD)
By the way, congratulations for your position in Google searches
and for such an interesting topic to talk about…
Sorry for my horrible english ^_^
Well, it has been quite some time since I originally posted this thread, but it’s finally generating some dialogue, which is great. I have to point out that I don’t categorically “hate” Wolfmother, I’m just not interested, and I have certain reasons for feeling that way. We’re all entitled to those kinds of opinions, even Mike Patton. I think it’s interesting how people tend to assign so much weight and consequence to the opinions of “celeberities”. Is it indicative of a collective lack of self-confidence, or do we just continually expect our celeberities to always issue perfectly pre-planned, edited and PR approved speaches?
Wolfmother isn’t bad, but I don’t agree with Wolfmother fans trying to throw Mike Patton in with some old, washed-out trash like CC Deville or Motley Crue. Mike Patton is on a whole different spaceship than those guys. You will never hear Axl Rose on a Bjork album just as you would never hear Vince Neil on a Tool record or a Dillenger Escape Plan album. Know what I’m sayin’? I think theres a pretty polarized view in music today and theres only a few real bands that are really rising from the emo/fashioncore/mallpunk/metal retrospective/carbon copy ashes. Meshuggah, Ween, Melvins, Queens of the Stone Age. The dinosaurs. RAWR!
Mike Patton is a strange guy. (btw. I’m a FNM-fan since I was 12… in 1993)
If you know how Patton think and what a mass of audial experience he got, you’ll understand what he’s meaning with his critics. Patton sees himself as more than just a conventional musician, he tries to be an artist as you can see in his experimental steps towards fantomas and so… in the 1990s he already hated the modern sounds cuz he recognizes many groups copy or use sounds older ones used as well. As an artist he wanted to bring on the development of music as an art. Don’t you also find music from nowadays is just a clone or the essence of older genres? I listened to fewer and fewer new sounds for the last 10 years. Nothing new, nothing special. Patton hates Wolfmother, because they adapted music from the late 60s or earlier 70s. I think he’s right. The retro-crap we listen to since couplea years is just making money with memories of a time the music could develop without being just a product of a concept to get people’s money. I don’t think, Patton hates the group… but he hates what they stand for. A group which doesn’t appear as a moneyget-concept…but it’s kind of it! Patton has the lux of not being depended to labels… he’s is one of the few artists who can make music as they like…
oh.. and btw. … Patton said in an interview that he don’t trust people who don’t like Slayer. I know he’s just kidding like always… or just exagerate his critic position… but i HATE Slayer… those li’l girlies in leather-pants
… they scream as li’l pigtailed girls
Hmmm, Slayer = pigtailed girlies in leather pants…
I’m sure that’ll piss a few people off. Bring it on, gang!
ok i ain’t going to say mike patton sucks or what other shit people say. i am a huge wolfmother fan and i only say that being a fan, you got to take criticism and well wolfmother take alot. the fact i find their music amazing is good enough for me and i don’t care what some wash up musician thinks. i never even heard of mike patton until today but your going on about new music when i think you’ll find i am a teenager, i am into new music but i still love the sound of classic rock music which wolfmother are able to provide.
Although Jimmi’s comments above are quite level headed, he raises an ongoing issue. I just have to toss this out to all of the “teenager[s]” that seem to think that because they are “young” (when, exactly, do you stop being “young”?) that they have some kind of innate authority on “new” music.
First, remember that all music was new at some point, and that some people, somewhere, were listening to it. Second, most of us, however old we are now, were teenagers once. Many of us have experienced that youthful sense of egocentric infallibility. I think many teenagers view experience as a kind of handicap because they observe “older” people making more reserved and calculated decisions and judgements. There is definitely the danger that as one gains more experience, one will make more and more judgements based on habit rather than critical thinking. People with experience and open minds are likely to make better judgements overall.
I’ll offer one bit of advice to Jimmi and other “fans”: seek out the roots of the music you love. Listen to the bands that Wolfmother themselves list as influences, and THEN listen to the bands and musicians that THOSE bands list as their influences, and so on for as much as you can. In this case and many others, it won’t be long before you’re listening to Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters and others like them. That’s how you build experience. In the end, you may still be a big fan of Wolfmother. You will certainly have a lot better understanding of their music, and a lot of other music as well. This will leave you a more developed sense of the music you like, and better equipped to defend the merits of those bands and musicians.
It seems it’s been said numerous times now. So what if Wolfmother isn’t creating anything new. Mike Patton might be contributing to modern music and blah blah blah, all that bullshit, but in my humble opinion, modern music sucks. Now, I’m not saying all modern music sucks, there’s a lot I like and I’m able to find bits I like in every song and bits I don’t, but overall, in comparison to the classics like Zeppelin, Hendrix, ZZ Top, etc., modern music doesn’t even begin to compare.
The fact is, that you want statistics, then look at Wolfmother’s album sales. Five times platinum, they must be doing something right. When was the last time that Patton had an album that reached that many people? Has he ever? Not to say that popularity alone makes a band great, but it does say something about what they’re doing.
I never had a problem with Patton until he bashed Wolfmother, and I’m not even that big of a fan of Wolfmother, I just can’t respect a musician who can’t respect another. Honestly, it sounds to me like Patton is in the wrong field. Wolfmother is greatly influenced by 70’s bands, but it doesn’t make them bad. That would be like saying Stevie Ray Vaughan sucks because he was greatly influenced by Jimi Hendrix. Blues and jazz haven’t changed much, and they’re two of the oldest music types, but the musicians involved aren’t bad, they just do what works, and that’s what Wolfmother does.
Although I think T makes a good point regarding respect among musicians, his post brings me back to this again:
Musicians are people, too. They have OPINIONS, and sometimes they make iffy judgement calls. In this media saturated culture we live in, many musicians and other celebrities are constantly being recorded, which results in the public hearing things that they wouldn’t have a decade ago.
When I first posted on this topic, I expected to be flamed by Wolfmother fans. I am pleasantly surprised by the general level-headedness of all the discussion here.
Mike Patton actually apologised on Triple J over here. He said he was just in one of those moods and he listened to Wolfmother again. He said, ‘They’re not that bad. Not the good”.”Sure it’s his own opinion when it comes to Wolfmother, he has a right not to like certain bands etc while some of us love those bands. I think it was his Äre people really that stupid?” comment that pissed people off. I quite like Wolfmother and I love all Mike Patton bands, collaborations and so on.
Cheers.
Oh. By the way. I’m not sure were this site is based but just in case you didn’t know, Triple J is a radio station over here in Australia and they have a TV show on Saturdays called JTV. Mike Patton and Imani Coppola were on it two weeks in a row. One interview was in the actual radio studio so they may have actually played it on the radio not just JTV but I’m not sure. You should eb able to find the second interview if you go on the Triple J site.
Thanks again.
Let me first say that I’m no Wolfmother fan. I love the Melvins. I love Fantomas. I love Slayer. I love High on Fire. I love Kyuss. I’m a huge stoner rock/doom metal fan. That being said, Mike Patton needs to learn to keep his mouth shut. He makes himself sound like a retard. Honestly, if you can stand to listen to more than 2 minutes of Mike Patton’s recent GARBAGE then you’re a better man than me. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to be able to say Mike Patton is a musical genious. He’s not. He’s just some guy that gets it right once in a while.
If a band wants to make some cheese on recycled Sabbath riffs, why would that be any of Patton’s business? It just goes to show how tired people are of this moern garbage.
Maybe Patton needs to take a break from the caffeine and smoke a joint.
Hey, to everyone who thinks that Wolfmother is just making classic sounding music to make money, then you obviously haven’t done your homework on Wolfmother, let alone know jack shit about them (pardon my french). They said it themselves, they diddn’t expect to get as big as they did. Wolfmother just play the music that they play because they enjoy doing it, they ain’t trying to generate a new sound, and honestly it’s pretty damn refreshing. Theres already enough people trying to make a knew sound these days, if you ask me it’s those kind of artists that get all full of themselves and act like there better than all the others, but when you have a band that plays the music they love despite all of the “haters” then you know there music is written with heart and passion. Wolfmother said “If you like our music, awsome. If you don’t, awsome.” I love classic rock and i’m only 19, bands like LED ZEPPELIN, THE DOORS, PINK FLOYD, THE ROLLING STONES, THE EAGLES, AC/DC, STEVE MILLER BAND, ROD STEWART, FLEETWOOD MAC, BLACK SABBATH, TOM PETTY, ERIC CLAPTON, CREAM, and way too many more to type, and when a rare band comes along and throws the modern sound out the window and plays rock how it was meant to be played, then you deffinatley got my respect, but when you shoot them down for it then I just can’t agree with you no matter hw valid your point is. I mean I love quite a bit of modern music, i’m not gonna name them but most of the modern rock just plain sucks! I’m sick of hearin about musicians ex-girlfreinds who dumped there ass or brutally murdering someone while sounding like the cookie monster, I need beautiful guitar solos, lyrics that send a message worth hearing, something I can just relax and smoke some weed to and at the same time vent my frustrations to. Wolfmother does all of those things for me, not just cause they sound like Zep or Ozzy, and if yu wan’t to hate a band for that then your lost.
P.S. WHO THE FUCK IS MIKE PATTON? I NEVER EVEN HEARD OF HIM UNTIL I SEEN HIS STUPID HATE VIDEO, AND WHEN I LOKED HIM UP ALL I GOT WASN’T THAT GREAT, SO HOW IN THE HELL HE BECAME A MUSICAL GOD TO MOST OF YOU IS BEYOND ME.
P.S. #2, Bring on the hate, i’m just gonna smirk and blow weed smoke towards the screen
Oh, and Polytek, you and you opinions suck. Why dont you go jerk off to a modern day Mike Patton poster.
And dont get all uptight cause I diddn’t know who your girlfriend Mike Patton was. Sorry I just couldn’t leave without saying something immature
Such an eloquent argument full of deep understanding.
I’m crushed. I think I’ll go slash.
Then again, maybe I’ll just shred my Mike Patton posters (!), d/l every Wolfmother track I can find and jerk off while I listen to THEM…
BTW, here is a quote from my original entry in this thread:
“The posters who defend Wolfmother seem to offer no real evidence of their validity as contributors to modern music, beyond a claim to the effect that they’re hard rockin’ guys just playin’ some kick ass tunes. In fact, most of the posts resort to name calling.”
Sound familiar???
If there are many other Wolfmother fans of this caliber out there, Mike Patton probably doesn’t need any help defending his original statement.
Thankfully, most of the people posting here haven’t fallen in to this category.
Yep your right, oh gosh!
Too bad I’m not more like you, wish I could find some tiny controversial remark made by some famous person to another. Then after that, post a hater blog about it, act like I’m someone important, and think that my opinion on it is something special. When it’s worth about as much as you can get on Wall Street.
Whether you like it or not Wolfmother is bigger and better than Mike Patton, and Patton is probably just mad cause a band he dont like is better than him, and there’s nothing that you or him can say to change that.
Oh, and why do act like what Patton stated was anything important???
All he did was stand there and look like a befuddled idiot, while saying “What year are we in?”, “Wolfmother you suck!”. Right after he got done talking about doing 60’s Italian music.
Dee Dee Dee
Well I hope you have fun with your blogging venture,you won’t be hearing from me again Pollytit.
Oh, my bad! lol, I mean Polytek.
And I did blow some weed smoke at the screen to.
Tah Tah
“Wolfmother is bigger and better than Mike Patton”
The fact is, that is a horrifying thought…
Sorry, but I fail to see how Mike Patton’s comments concerning Wolfmother have caused so much outrage…
I’m literally disgusted by the number of people who act as though contributing nothing original or of any unique value to music is “no big deal”….
That is the stuff one-hit wonders and local cover bands are made of.
Of course a band should be doing everything within their power to make real music that has something to say besides “wear these shoes, buy this shampoo, and eat this pasta”, otherwise, what is the point of making music at all?
Countless “artists” have proven that anyone can perform a crappy rendition of someone else’s song recorded and ‘magicked’ in a studio and it will sell endless copies to a bunch of underweight teenage girls in tight pants and their over-eager wannabe-teen mothers as well.
Not contributing anything original to music does more damage than people are willing to admit.
As it is more and more people are stuck in that sheep mentality and are quite willing to plod along the path to the slaughterhouse so long as there’s enough fresh grass to munch and plenty of the same old music that makes you feel all warm and gooey inside to keep you company on the way.
Listening to the same old thing comes easily enough, I suppose; and it certainly seems to decrease the possibility of any pesky new thoughts actually coming into your head and getting you to consider something other than whether or not your teeth are white enough and which celebrity wore what to which event, right?
The music has no value if it cannot withstand both a little criticism as well as the test of time.
Obviously it won’t be instantly obvious whether Wolfmother and their music will stand the test of time, but even if they do, let’s remember that people are still listening to “The Purple People-Eater” song these days…
There aren’t many musicians who can experiment outside their “niche’. Artists like Beck, Mike Patton, Maynard James Keenan and Les Claypool, to name a few, are willing to experiment whether or not people are into it. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t. Bands like Wolfmother will be here for the moment, but you’ll find them playing the fairgrounds eventually because they don’t have anything unique to offer to those who are always looking for the next great sound.
i couldn’t be bothered reading all the responses but agree with you on all terms. apart from justin timberlake. he aint all bad. even patton likes him.
but is mike gay? theres news to me..
There will never be another person to be as creative, talented, and smart as Mike Patton. He’s always done his own thing, never caring what mainstream America thought of his music. I love that he’s not afraid to make an album that consists of random noises. He knows that his true fans will always listen to him and they will always love and respect his music. Wolfmother will never do anything to change or impact any sort of musical movement at all. They will sound like everyone else on the radio until people move onto something else. I’m not really sure why this is a discussion. Mike Patton is amazing, Wolfmother will never be as good. Done.
In response to A Furious Cloud’s statement. Why do you find it nessecary for all new music to be completly original. I personally prefer to listen to music which has fresh ideas with unique twists on older genres of music, but I also have friends who enjoy listening to music which is less experimental and I certainly wouldn’t descibe them as having a sheep mentallity. These are intelligent people who just PREFER to listen to simplier types of music.
You state that bands like Wolfmother are causing damage to the music industry by being unoriginal, I would argue that such bands are needed to cater for people who simply prefer to listen to more roots based music as opposed to more experimental types of music.
The whole 70’s oriented rock thing has been going on for longer than Wolfmother. I’ve been dissappointed with the mainstream “rock scene” since the mid 90’s now. Since then there’s been ever tiding waves of 60’s/70’s derivative “rock”.
FNM and Mike Patton really struck a chord with me as a teenager. Especially with the Angel Dust album. Since then, FNM’s music is still good to me though everything other than Angel Dust sounds a little dated now. But not to worry. Thank god there are musicians like Mike Patton out there who exist to explore new realms and boundaries. Sure Patton makes the odd record that at first seems hard to listen to, but it’s always interesting to me because it’s different and varied. As with other musicians, I don’t have to like all of it either, but the point about Patton and other experimental musicians is that they aren’t trying to compete with the likes of Wolfmother. The’re playing in a whole different, much larger field where the audience is more scattered/varied and the results more unpredictable.
I can’t listen to the likes of Wolfmother and consider it more than just background music. It evokes no feelings in me. Why? It goes nowhere new at all. Sure they may be having fun playing their favourite music. Fair play to them. There’s nothing wrong with that kind of thing. but shame on the record companies and execs for promoting this stuff. We only acheieve great things by growing. Naturally, we only grow as a result of new experiences. Wolfmother and co take us nowhere new. Consequently, the mainstream music scene remains more or less stagnant since the early 90’s.
I don’t want to hear the same sounds rehashed ad infinitum. I’m not even that interested in a FNM reunion unless they were getting together for a new project with a new sound. Otherwise Patton’s post FNM career is far more interesting.
[...] I understand the appeal of the progenitors. I even appreciate the talent of those directly inspired who took up the torch of their rock forefathers through the seventies and early eighties. I like Zeppelin, Hendrix wrote some damn killer songs and even though I don’t like prog much stuff like Camel and King Crimson has its appeal to many the world over. Black Sabbath are the godfathers of my precious METAL! So WHY?!?!?! if these original bands were so good, and their subsequent second-foundlings rocked less originally but still had merit, do we now suffer these trendy retro-chic wankers? Even Mike Patton hates them! [...]
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A couple of points to make.
1) A lot of people are attacking Patton for singling out Wolfmother for criticism, rather than attacking other unoriginal comercial pap . It should be remembered that Wolfmother just happened to be playing during the Patton interview, it was an off the cuff comment about one band among many that aren’t contributing anything new to music. Personally bands like Wolfmother deserve to be criticized, considering the way the music press constantly needs to find bands that are apparently resurecting rock. Personally I feel that Tomahawk are a reasonably accessible rock band that many people not comfortable with Patton’s more avant garde projects would easily enjoy, Why is Tomahawk not more succesful then? I hear you ask, well that probably got a lot to do with Ipecac spending its money on giving a platform to new and challenging artists rather than publicity. And thats the point really Patton realises it takes a lot to promote an album and he has first hand experience over the problems with major labels taking risks with interesting music.
2) Wolfmother is not more succesful than Mike Patton, neither in terms of critical acclaim or financial success. Wolfmother has one succesful album, a feat which I feel is unlikely to be repeated. Whereas Mike Patton has a string of succesful and critically acclaimed albums. Mike Patton must be raking it in from Faith no More royalties alone before even taking into account all his other projects, touring and record label.
Also in response to T’s comment
“Blues and jazz haven’t changed much, and they’re two of the oldest music types, but the musicians involved aren’t bad, they just do what works, and that’s what Wolfmother does.”
Blues and Jazz are both relatively modern forms of music, Jazz has changed phenomenally through time, and Wolfmother have simply taken a rather well tread path of rehashing classic rock, and in my opinion has produced a boring and annoying rock album, that uninventive nature is an insult to the ethos of rock pioneers such as Zeppelin and Sabbath who really were trying something new.
Like the fat kid that Blayne and his girlfriend are (http://www.myspace.com/blainemartell) I like to smoke pot too while listening to music, I do that with Bungle, Fantomas, Mondo Cane, Secret Chiefs 3 and all that stuff that makes my brain work. Radio music doesn’t take my higher. Mr.Polytek, I know that this isn’t a valid argument, but that was made by most people here before me. Take care!
Mordern music sucks!! All the people that say blah blah we want to hear new style of music, not old style taking from the 70s blah balh. Shut the fuck up. Than don’t complain when you hear 12 year old girls singing one of the Jonas Sisters songs. I don’t liek Wolfmother but shit they are hundred times better than the gay emo, fake punk, Disney channel singers.
Too the people that say WM brings nothing new to the table. Um Guns N’ Roses brought nothing new. They were trying to be like Aerosmith.
mike patton fucking rules the guys always ahead of the music industry i like slayer and i just find out that he’s about to release a record with tv on the radio how awesome is that
i like mike patton. he’s one of my favorite singers ever, and a very diverse one at that. anyway, i think your points are really really narrow-minded. just because someone has been playing music for a longer period of time and is more experienced with it, doesn’t mean their opinion is somehow magically made more important. lots of mindless patton fanboys here, start thinking for yourselves you dumbfucks.
i think this was hilarious, i don’t hate wolfmother but i don’t really bother to listen to them at all.
What about the claim that Mike Patton is gay?
he was married man, he is not gay, he’s just sure enough in his sexuallity to sing songs written by gay people (like Faith No More keyboardist)